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]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/topic/1879</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 20:35:57 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://lcz.me/topic/1879.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:23:32 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:58:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">希望能內建JEV....這樣我做量化分析會方便很多</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/20295</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/20295</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[David Chen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:58:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:53:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/bunsei" aria-label="Profile: Bunsei">@<bdi>Bunsei</bdi></a> <a href="/post/19996">said</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">不妨大胆点猜测，2027～2028 年，没准真能在家部署接近 Opus 4.8 级别的模型（哪怕它是 27B 主权重 + 14～18B n-gram）。</p>
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<p dir="auto">等2027 12月驗證這個 "大胆猜测" 是低估 還是高估 <img src="https://lcz.me/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f920.png?v=ecb7c61779a" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--face_with_cowboy_hat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":face_with_cowboy_hat:" alt="🤠" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/20294</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/20294</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:53:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 08:16:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">有可能內置類似JEV的功能嗎?</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/20033</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/20033</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rori]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 08:16:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:55:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">期待千問4 27b</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/20023</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/20023</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[starryskyknight]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:55:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:27:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/paul-hou" aria-label="Profile: paul-hou">@<bdi>paul-hou</bdi></a> 这个也有搞头啊！</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/20010</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/20010</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rock shi]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:27:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:23:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kos-or" aria-label="Profile: kos-or">@<bdi>kos-or</bdi></a> <a href="/post/19951">说</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">我今年的預測時間長度一直被前沿公司的大模型壓縮, 預測加快了10倍, 接著前沿公司就會用100倍的速度打破了我的預測認知</p>
<p dir="auto">ps. 依照我去年的預測認知 "Qwen3.8-27B" 基本上是屬於 2027年底或2028年的產品</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>27B 重點 ：在桌面端，我们开源的千问27B模型 是全球最受开发者欢迎的模型。<br />
未来我们还将持续优化这一类模型，支持开发者和企業的本地化部署</strong></p>
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<p dir="auto"><img src="https://upload.lcz.me/uploads/b85f0c20-5bd7-4f8e-ba30-e5ec33273b5f.jpeg" alt="65ee7cf4-1e76-41ff-a155-a77811b59067-image.jpeg" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">原本以为 3.8-27B 基本到顶了，但看到 Qwen4 的新架构后，我觉得它可能是能力和 3.8 差不多（略强一点），但靠新架构把通识知识大幅补上，吞吐也快很多。不妨大胆点猜测，2027～2028 年，没准真能在家部署接近 Opus 4.8 级别的模型（哪怕它是 27B 主权重 + 14～18B n-gram）。</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19996</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19996</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunsei]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:23:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:13:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/paul-hou" aria-label="Profile: paul-hou">@<bdi>paul-hou</bdi></a> <a href="/post/19952">说</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">這麼快就來了，不會是QWEN3.8 27B + N-gram = QWEN4 27B 吧？</p>
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<p dir="auto">不太确定，但是N-gram权重肯定是有的，我猜大小是14G左右？</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19995</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19995</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunsei]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 06:13:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:38:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">這麼快就來了，不會是QWEN3.8 27B + N-gram = QWEN4 27B 吧？</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19952</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19952</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[paul hou]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:38:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:50:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">我今年的預測時間長度一直被前沿公司的大模型壓縮, 預測加快了10倍, 接著前沿公司就會用100倍的速度打破了我的預測認知</p>
<p dir="auto">ps. 依照我去年的預測認知 "Qwen3.8-27B" 基本上是屬於 2027年底或2028年的產品</p>
<p dir="auto"><strong>27B 重點 ：在桌面端，我们开源的千问27B模型 是全球最受开发者欢迎的模型。<br />
未来我们还将持续优化这一类模型，支持开发者和企業的本地化部署</strong></p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="https://upload.lcz.me/uploads/b85f0c20-5bd7-4f8e-ba30-e5ec33273b5f.jpeg" alt="65ee7cf4-1e76-41ff-a155-a77811b59067-image.jpeg" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19951</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19951</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:50:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:32:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">你們是不是一年後的未來人來這邊發帖的 ？ 除非Qwen4-27B 進步的幅度"很小" 等同於Qwen3.8-27B的能力,<br />
否則怎麼可能短短時間內光速飛越, 這違反地球人類史上對科技進步速度的認知呀</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19950</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19950</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:32:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:29:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kos-or" aria-label="Profile: kos-or">@<bdi>kos-or</bdi></a> <a href="/post/19947">说</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">我不相信, 我寧願相信這是假消息 - Qwen4-27B</p>
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<p dir="auto">刚刚发布的消息，还热乎着~</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19949</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19949</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunsei]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:29:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:28:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/david-chen" aria-label="Profile: David-Chen">@<bdi>David-Chen</bdi></a> <a href="/post/19946">说</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">4 這數字代表已經擺脫 3...意義是全面的進化......3.8才沒出多久 4就要來了....</p>
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<p dir="auto">好像全系列都支持N-gram技术，能一定程度上挣脱27B的体积带来的通识知识、速度上限制？细节上我不太清楚，待会我可能得找GPT补补课。<img src="https://lcz.me/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f920.png?v=ecb7c61779a" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--face_with_cowboy_hat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":face_with_cowboy_hat:" alt="🤠" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19948</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19948</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunsei]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:28:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:27:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">我不相信, 我寧願相信這是假消息 - Qwen4-27B</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19947</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19947</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:27:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Qwen4也要来了！ on Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:25:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">4 這數字代表已經擺脫 3...意義是全面的進化......3.8才沒出多久 4就要來了....</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/19946</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/19946</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[David Chen]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 03:25:57 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>