<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">今天偶然看到一个人发15000刀的RTX5090，还以为看错了，就查了一下，结果被吓到！</p>
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哈哈哈，这种花边你都有小道消息，牛逼！</p>
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总价 700 亿美元 ÷ 600 万颗 = 约 1,166.7 美元/颗<br />
如果这价格，坛友人手2张多好</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31308</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31308</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[毅袁]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 08:24:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:21:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kop-wang" aria-label="Profile: kop-wang">@<bdi>kop-wang</bdi></a> 就3.6-4 这些模型，让网上的大神改来改去，还有些拿去后训练，都足够本地玩家玩一年了吧。  引擎，算子那些都优化不少了。</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31285</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31285</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[stxpnet]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:21:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:01:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">澳洲 赶紧 给老黄 安排个 女生, 显卡价格就能下来了.</p>
<p dir="auto">没有一场睡觉,谈不下来的显卡价格.  老黄也是性情中人,</p>
<p dir="auto">肯定老黄在澳洲没弄爽</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31273</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31273</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:01:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:01:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jenaflex" aria-label="Profile: jenaflex">@<bdi>jenaflex</bdi></a><br />
你买到了么？</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31272</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31272</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 07:01:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 06:00:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kop-wang" aria-label="Profile: kop-wang">@<bdi>kop-wang</bdi></a> <a href="/post/31141">said</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">有传闻qwen小模型开源系列到qwen4为止</p>
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<p dir="auto">未來某些本地模型可能會進行下載收費, 嚴格管制, 本人身份認證才能下載 等管制措施</p>
<p dir="auto">如果Qwen4.0能有20%~30%的進步 會是大家的福氣</p>
<p dir="auto">不過LLM只佔Agent表現的一半, 另一半的harness 框架還是能繼續發熱發光</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31249</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31249</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 06:00:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:53:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/fcme" aria-label="Profile: fcme">@<bdi>fcme</bdi></a> <a href="/post/31189">said</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">不如订阅个api。</p>
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<p dir="auto">2027 API token 成本可能剩下 十分之一</p>
<p dir="auto">舉例來說 我今年每月平均API費用<br />
從高點每月60美元 =&gt; 20美元 =&gt; 最近一個月就只需要8美元, 預計明年底前剩下每月0.8美元<br />
文字版的LLM雲端API費用會超級便宜, 就開水價<br />
但生圖和影片這成本我就不清楚了</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31248</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31248</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:53:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:43:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/fcme" aria-label="Profile: fcme">@<bdi>fcme</bdi></a> 曲线看起来像股票，当之无愧的最佳理财产品<img src="https://lcz.me/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f436.png?v=5be5614064c" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--dog" style="height:1.4em;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":dog:" alt="🐶" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31247</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31247</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jenaflex]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:43:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:21:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kop-wang" aria-label="Profile: kop-wang">@<bdi>kop-wang</bdi></a><br />
应该不会的，即使阿里不做，也有其他人会做。<br />
再加上最近看一个消息，说头部模型可以直接改小模型的权重，让它变得更牛逼。这样的话，以后小模型根本就不用单独训练了</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31235</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31235</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:21:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:20:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/peace-love" aria-label="Profile: Peace-Love">@<bdi>Peace-Love</bdi></a></p>
<p dir="auto">开什么挂？是被人焊大显存了吗？</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31234</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31234</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:20:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:19:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/choi-daniel" aria-label="Profile: Choi-Daniel">@<bdi>Choi-Daniel</bdi></a><br />
是的，很有可能走这这条路，等两三周就黑五了</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31233</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31233</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 05:19:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 03:44:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/williamlouis" aria-label="Profile: williamlouis">@<bdi>williamlouis</bdi></a><br />
确实，个人追高没个头</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31190</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31190</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 03:44:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 03:43:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kos-or" aria-label="Profile: kos-or">@<bdi>kos-or</bdi></a><br />
是，现在的27B和flash next以后分别够快够强了，对于本地来说。再往上对个人的意义真没啥了，不如订阅个api。</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31189</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31189</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[fcme]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 03:43:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:14:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/applejuice" aria-label="Profile: applejuice">@<bdi>applejuice</bdi></a> 目前的传言是27B，flash这个级别的还没说。</p>
<p dir="auto">27B这个级别确实对于qwen战略意义不大。一个是技术路线太老，一个是高不成低不就，日常设备其实很难跑27B。从商业角度考虑，还不如35B-A3B</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31148</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31148</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kop wang]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:14:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:10:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kop-wang" aria-label="Profile: kop-wang">@<bdi>kop-wang</bdi></a> 那我们就gg了</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31143</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31143</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[applejuice]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:10:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:04:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">有传闻qwen小模型开源系列到qwen4为止，这可能也会大幅度降低显卡的需求。</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31141</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31141</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kop wang]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 02:04:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 01:35:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">美国变天 可能数据中心被限制 显卡需求变少？</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31132</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31132</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[applejuice]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 01:35:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 00:51:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">5090 芯片GB202 終於被發現 能開掛 XDDD<br />
於是 .......</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31126</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31126</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Peace Love]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 00:51:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Thu, 05 Nov 2026 00:45:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/fcme" aria-label="Profile: fcme">@<bdi>fcme</bdi></a> <a href="/post/31028">said</a>:</p>
<p dir="auto">人在给AI付钱，不管是硬件还是API都是</p>
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<p dir="auto">未來大概是 AI 自己養自己 Self-sustaining<br />
你給ASI一筆錢, 它自己用超高頻交易炒股 (High-frequency trading)<br />
有可能比特幣真的邁向 100萬美元的價格 <img src="https://lcz.me/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f633.png?v=5be5614064c" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--flushed" style="height:1.4em;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":flushed:" alt="😳" /></p>
<p dir="auto">但如Musk所預測的, 未來的金錢將失去意義</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31124</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31124</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2026 00:45:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Wed, 04 Nov 2026 17:09:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">買張R9700吧, 雖然漲了但還算在可以接受的範圍。</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31085</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31085</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Choi Daniel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2026 17:09:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Wed, 04 Nov 2026 16:52:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><img src="https://lcz.me/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f525.png?v=5be5614064c" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--fire" style="height:1.4em;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="🔥" alt="🔥" /> 本帖参与讨论人数已达 <strong>10+</strong>，入选<strong>热议</strong>，作者 <strong>+3 积分</strong>奖励！</p>
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<p dir="auto">奖励凭证：热议 +3 分 · 编号 h2829-1686-1</p>
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]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31082</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31082</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Xiaote]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2026 16:52:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Wed, 04 Nov 2026 16:51:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">pro 5000 是4090 的加强 AI 版。在AI部分加强了。<br />
目前没有任何硬件的价格是入手的选择。刚需除外。<br />
入手马上投入生产就能赚到钱可以考虑。不然没有任何意义。<br />
本身就是研究学习而已。快慢有什么区别！</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31079</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31079</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[williamlouis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2026 16:51:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Wed, 04 Nov 2026 14:21:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/fcme" aria-label="Profile: fcme">@<bdi>fcme</bdi></a></p>
<p dir="auto">好呀 就規劃個3~5年夠用的配置<br />
目前能做到的就只有這些了<br />
未來一兩年變化會非常巨大 有了基本配置就沒什麼好擔心的</p>
]]></description><link>https://lcz.me/post/31052</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://lcz.me/post/31052</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[kos or]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2026 14:21:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 5090都这价格了！这泡泡nm啥时候破呀！ on Wed, 04 Nov 2026 14:19:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kos-or" aria-label="Profile: kos-or">@<bdi>kos-or</bdi></a><br />
5070ti价格也是稍稍动了一下。可能给他挪到办公机里面，然后再搞一张r9700做纯amd的AI服务器，就看黑五了。</p>
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