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    fly86
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    #1

    启动这一步卡很久

    今天终于有空尝试下strata,windows安装过程还是不用太操心,主要是太慢了,有时我怀疑它出bug卡死了。

    === Step 7: writing the start script ===
      [ok] KV streaming on: the context's KV cache lives in RAM (1.8 GB), more experts fit in VRAM
      tip: this card drives a display. If the PC freezes or the screen goes black once the model is loaded (#779), keep more VRAM free: run setup again with --vram-reserve-mib 1500
    Tune Strata for this PC now? It measures a few engine settings (about 15-30 minutes, longer on a slow card; the PC is busy meanwhile; later: START-HERE --calibrate) [y]: y
    
      Tuning Strata for this PC: the output speed is measured with a few engine settings (the PCIe share, the
      draft depth, the CPU threads, the expert cache; on two or more cards also the prompt chunks). It takes
      roughly 15-30 minutes (3 rounds of each value); the PC is busy meanwhile.
      Loading the model for the measurements ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.    round 1/3 PCIe share: 0 76.1  0.2 79.5  0.35 86.3  0.55 90.4  0.75 87.4  0.9 85.5  1 82.1
    
    [strata] still starting (2580 s) - please wait ...
        round 2/3 PCIe share: 0 74.3  0.2 80.2  0.35 87.4  0.55 91.4  0.75 90.4  0.9 89.0  1 85.4
        round 3/3 PCIe share: 0 74.8  0.2 79.3  0.35 85.0  0.55 89.6  0.75 90.2  0.9 84.0  1 84.4
        PCIe share, median of 3: 0: 74.8 (74.3-76.1), 0.2: 79.5 (79.3-80.2), 0.35: 86.3 (85.0-87.4), 0.55: 90.4 (89.6-91.4), 0.75: 90.2 (87.4-90.4), 0.9: 85.5 (84.0-89.0), 1: 84.4 (82.1-85.4) -> best 0.55
        round 1/3 draft floor: 0.3 89.3  0.5 91.8  0.7 99.0
        round 2/3 draft floor: 0.3 91.3  0.5 92.5  0.7 97.1
        round 3/3 draft floor: 0.3 90.8  0.5 92.3  0.7 97.1
        draft floor, median of 3: 0.3: 90.8 (89.3-91.3), 0.5: 92.3 (91.8-92.5), 0.7: 97.1 (97.1-99.0) -> best 0.7
      Measuring with 5 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.79 GiB/s (24 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        5 workers: 95.9 tok/s
      Measuring with 3 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.20 GiB/s (22 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        3 workers: 82.3 tok/s
      Measuring with 2 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.00 GiB/s (23 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        2 workers: 70.6 tok/s
      Measuring the expert tier (the engine default) (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.93 GiB/s (22 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        99.8 tok/s
      Measuring the expert tier every 1, 80 swaps, decay 0.97 (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.23 GiB/s (21 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        113.3 tok/s
      Measuring the expert tier every 1, 160 swaps, decay 0.97 (restarts the engine) ...
    [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
    [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
             YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
             Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
    [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.79 GiB/s (24 s so far)
    [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
    [strata] almost ready ...
        113.6 tok/s
      [ok] tuned for this PC: --pcie-frac 0.55, --spec-min-p 0.70, --adapt-every 1, --adapt-swaps 160, --adapt-decay 0.97 (113.6 tok/s)
      [ok] start script: run-iq3_xxs.bat
    
    All set.
      API (OpenAI):     http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1   (any API key; model name: anything)
      API (Anthropic):  http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/messages
      Next time:        just run START-HERE.bat (or run-iq3_xxs.bat) - it starts right away
      Images:           send them in the chat page, in chat.py (/image <path>) or over the API
      Several requests at once: left at one at a time - parallel N reduces waiting for several users but costs about 10-25% speed per request on this card (docs/BATCHING.md).
    Run a quick benchmark now? It measures this install for about 10 minutes and writes a report you can share (later: BENCH.bat) [n]: n
    
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    • F fly86

      启动这一步卡很久

      今天终于有空尝试下strata,windows安装过程还是不用太操心,主要是太慢了,有时我怀疑它出bug卡死了。

      === Step 7: writing the start script ===
        [ok] KV streaming on: the context's KV cache lives in RAM (1.8 GB), more experts fit in VRAM
        tip: this card drives a display. If the PC freezes or the screen goes black once the model is loaded (#779), keep more VRAM free: run setup again with --vram-reserve-mib 1500
      Tune Strata for this PC now? It measures a few engine settings (about 15-30 minutes, longer on a slow card; the PC is busy meanwhile; later: START-HERE --calibrate) [y]: y
      
        Tuning Strata for this PC: the output speed is measured with a few engine settings (the PCIe share, the
        draft depth, the CPU threads, the expert cache; on two or more cards also the prompt chunks). It takes
        roughly 15-30 minutes (3 rounds of each value); the PC is busy meanwhile.
        Loading the model for the measurements ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.    round 1/3 PCIe share: 0 76.1  0.2 79.5  0.35 86.3  0.55 90.4  0.75 87.4  0.9 85.5  1 82.1
      
      [strata] still starting (2580 s) - please wait ...
          round 2/3 PCIe share: 0 74.3  0.2 80.2  0.35 87.4  0.55 91.4  0.75 90.4  0.9 89.0  1 85.4
          round 3/3 PCIe share: 0 74.8  0.2 79.3  0.35 85.0  0.55 89.6  0.75 90.2  0.9 84.0  1 84.4
          PCIe share, median of 3: 0: 74.8 (74.3-76.1), 0.2: 79.5 (79.3-80.2), 0.35: 86.3 (85.0-87.4), 0.55: 90.4 (89.6-91.4), 0.75: 90.2 (87.4-90.4), 0.9: 85.5 (84.0-89.0), 1: 84.4 (82.1-85.4) -> best 0.55
          round 1/3 draft floor: 0.3 89.3  0.5 91.8  0.7 99.0
          round 2/3 draft floor: 0.3 91.3  0.5 92.5  0.7 97.1
          round 3/3 draft floor: 0.3 90.8  0.5 92.3  0.7 97.1
          draft floor, median of 3: 0.3: 90.8 (89.3-91.3), 0.5: 92.3 (91.8-92.5), 0.7: 97.1 (97.1-99.0) -> best 0.7
        Measuring with 5 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.79 GiB/s (24 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          5 workers: 95.9 tok/s
        Measuring with 3 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.20 GiB/s (22 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          3 workers: 82.3 tok/s
        Measuring with 2 CPU workers (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.00 GiB/s (23 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          2 workers: 70.6 tok/s
        Measuring the expert tier (the engine default) (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.93 GiB/s (22 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          99.8 tok/s
        Measuring the expert tier every 1, 80 swaps, decay 0.97 (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 3.23 GiB/s (21 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          113.3 tok/s
        Measuring the expert tier every 1, 160 swaps, decay 0.97 (restarts the engine) ...
      [strata] starting the engine: reading the model's weights ...
      [strata] loading the experts into RAM (about 47 GB) and locking part of them for the GPU.
               YOUR PC CAN BE SLOW OR STOP RESPONDING FOR 1-3 MINUTES NOW - this is normal.
               Please wait and don't close this window; the browser opens when it is ready.
      [strata] experts loaded: 39.97 GiB at 2.79 GiB/s (24 s so far)
      [strata] filling the GPU's expert cache (5165 experts, 8.38 GiB of VRAM) ...
      [strata] almost ready ...
          113.6 tok/s
        [ok] tuned for this PC: --pcie-frac 0.55, --spec-min-p 0.70, --adapt-every 1, --adapt-swaps 160, --adapt-decay 0.97 (113.6 tok/s)
        [ok] start script: run-iq3_xxs.bat
      
      All set.
        API (OpenAI):     http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1   (any API key; model name: anything)
        API (Anthropic):  http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/messages
        Next time:        just run START-HERE.bat (or run-iq3_xxs.bat) - it starts right away
        Images:           send them in the chat page, in chat.py (/image <path>) or over the API
        Several requests at once: left at one at a time - parallel N reduces waiting for several users but costs about 10-25% speed per request on this card (docs/BATCHING.md).
      Run a quick benchmark now? It measures this install for about 10 minutes and writes a report you can share (later: BENCH.bat) [n]: n
      
      perterP
      perterP
      perter
      贵族大夫 硕果累累
      编写于 最后由 perter 编辑
      #2

      @fly86 说:

      15-30 minutes

      只是第一次启动比较慢,不是写清楚了15-30minutes。
      以后直接运行run-iq3_xxs.bat就可以了。

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      • perterP perter

        @fly86 说:

        15-30 minutes

        只是第一次启动比较慢,不是写清楚了15-30minutes。
        以后直接运行run-iq3_xxs.bat就可以了。

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        fly86
        编写于 最后由 编辑
        #3

        @perter 已经过了30m,不耐烦ctrl+c一下它倒是有点反应了,然后继续。

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        • F fly86

          @perter 已经过了30m,不耐烦ctrl+c一下它倒是有点反应了,然后继续。

          perterP
          perterP
          perter
          贵族大夫 硕果累累
          编写于 最后由 编辑
          #4

          @fly86
          你是说每次都这么慢吗?SSD 1-3分钟就可以启动了。

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          • perterP perter

            @fly86
            你是说每次都这么慢吗?SSD 1-3分钟就可以启动了。

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            fly86
            编写于 最后由 编辑
            #5

            @perter 就安装的那一次,观察cpu/gpu/内存/磁盘/网络都没动静,看着就像死掉了。后续启动没问题。

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            • williamlouisW
              williamlouisW
              williamlouis
              易有太极
              编写于 最后由 编辑
              #6

              strata说:尊敬的用户您好,请勿关机。不然我会小小的浪费一点您的生命。

              个人主页:xlkj.org Telegram https://t.me/xlkjorg

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                fly86
                编写于 最后由 编辑
                #7

                有人用5070ti/5080 + 128G D4内存跑过吗,我在等另外64G内存的到来。

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                • williamlouisW williamlouis

                  strata说:尊敬的用户您好,请勿关机。不然我会小小的浪费一点您的生命。

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                  fly86
                  编写于 最后由 编辑
                  #8

                  @williamlouis 说:

                  strata说:尊敬的用户您好,请勿关机。不然我会小小的浪费一点您的生命。

                  生命在于折腾

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                    marsempire
                    编写于 最后由 编辑
                    #9

                    硬盘读取速度决定启动速度。之前装在sata ssd,启动要近两分钟。现在换了nvme,十几秒就好了

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                      fly86
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                      #10

                      配置如下:
                      cpu: 12490F
                      mb: B760M
                      ram: D4 32G 3600 x4 双通道
                      gpu: 5080 16G

                      跑unsloth qwen3.8 flash next ud q4 kxl模型,初始50t/s pp 2k,100K上下文 decode还能维持40以上。

                      为啥没权限发送图片。。。

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                      • F fly86

                        配置如下:
                        cpu: 12490F
                        mb: B760M
                        ram: D4 32G 3600 x4 双通道
                        gpu: 5080 16G

                        跑unsloth qwen3.8 flash next ud q4 kxl模型,初始50t/s pp 2k,100K上下文 decode还能维持40以上。

                        为啥没权限发送图片。。。

                        perterP
                        perterP
                        perter
                        贵族大夫 硕果累累
                        编写于 最后由 编辑
                        #11

                        @fly86 说:

                        为啥没权限发送图片。。。

                        邮箱没有激活,去邮箱的垃圾邮件找一下。

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