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  • E exllm

    @6cccccc 你BIOS开above 4G decoding了吗?

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    @exllm 开不开影响都不大,我实测没感觉出来区别,但是有大神测了有区别。

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    • 6 6cccccc

      为啥我的启动参数是这样:
      -m "$SELECTED_MODEL" -t 10 -b 512 -ub 256
      --spec-draft-n-max 3 --fit off --no-context-shift
      --metrics --kv-unified --jinja
      --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0
      -fa on --spec-type draft-mtp
      --ctx-size 131072 --parallel 1 -ngl -1
      --host 0.0.0.0 --port $LLAMA_PORT
      --chat-template-kwargs {"enable_thinking": true, "preserve_think": false, "reasoning_effort": "medium"}
      --no-mmap --temp 0.6 --top-p 0.5 --top-k 15 --repeat-penalty 1.0
      --alias qwen3.8-27b-q5
      仍然速度很低,只有12左右
      配置如下
      cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Eight-Core Processor (8核16线程, 3.2GHz)
      RAM: 64GB DDR4
      GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB (RADV NAVI31)
      OS: Ubuntu 26.04 LTS (内核 7.0.0-29-generic)
      软件 : llama.cpp Vulkan b10486

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      #28

      @6cccccc
      刚才实际测试了,如果开启Thinking了,速度也只有16,把Thinking Off后,速度我就恢复了70了。注意

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        #29

        @exllm @terry 感谢二位,以为本地部署没啥希望,刚好是7900xtx,简单测试

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          • E exllm

            @6cccccc 你BIOS开above 4G decoding了吗?

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            @exllm 我一会试试

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              @6cccccc
              刚才实际测试了,如果开启Thinking了,速度也只有16,把Thinking Off后,速度我就恢复了70了。注意

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              @懒人烘培 嗯,我一会试试,好像开了后,mtp命中率很低

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                #33

                感谢楼主. 7900xtx 能跑,不错. 明天试试dsh. 今天dsh+v4pro花了100多, 肉疼(不过确实强, 长链自主调试FPGA, 综合+ila probe+烧写+测试+uart输出分析一条龙, 我基本可以不用管, 花token就行).
                802712c0-6935-4c19-b583-ca3851ade37f-image.jpeg

                bruin@lmde7 ~ $ ./run-3.8-q5.sh
                0.00.035.069 W Setting 'enable_thinking' via --chat-template-kwargs is deprecated. Use --reasoning on / --reasoning off instead.
                0.00.035.097 W DEPRECATED: --mmap and --no-mmap are deprecated. use --load-mode mmap instead
                0.00.039.005 I cmn  common_param: common_params_print_info: verbosity = 3 (adjust with the `-lv N` CLI arg)
                0.00.039.491 W srv  llama_server: -----------------
                0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: CORS is set to allow all origins ('*') and no API key is set
                0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: this can be a security risk (cross-origin attacks)
                0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: more info: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/25655
                0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: -----------------
                0.00.040.765 I srv    load_model: loading model '/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf'
                0.08.836.391 I cmn          init: llama threadpool init, n_threads = 10
                0.09.247.607 I common_speculative_init_result: creating MTP draft context against the target model '/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf'
                0.09.318.357 I srv    load_model: initializing, n_slots = 1, n_ctx_slot = 131072, kv_unified = 'true'
                0.09.457.688 I srv          init: chat template supports preserving reasoning, consider enabling it via --reasoning-preserve
                0.09.457.746 I srv  llama_server: model loaded
                0.09.457.750 I srv  llama_server: listening on http://0.0.0.0:8000
                0.31.502.907 I slot get_availabl: id  0 | task -1 | selected slot by LRU, t_last = -1
                0.31.503.144 I slot launch_slot_: id  0 | task 0 | processing task, is_child = 0
                0.33.674.917 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 | prompt eval time =    1607.08 ms /   333 tokens (    4.83 ms per token,   207.21 tokens per second)
                0.33.674.922 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |        eval time =     564.47 ms /    34 tokens (   17.11 ms per token,    58.46 tokens per second)
                0.33.674.923 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |       total time =    2171.56 ms /   367 tokens
                0.33.674.928 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |    graphs reused =         11
                0.33.674.930 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 | draft acceptance = 0.72727 (   24 accepted /    33 generated), mean len =  3.18
                0.33.674.999 I slot      release: id  0 | task 0 | stop processing: n_tokens = 368, truncated = 0
                0.39.250.971 I slot get_availabl: id  0 | task -1 | selected slot by LCP similarity, f_sim_best = 0.963 (> 0.100 thold), f_keep = 1.000
                0.39.251.208 I slot launch_slot_: id  0 | task 16 | processing task, is_child = 0
                0.40.592.295 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 | prompt eval time =     368.90 ms /    14 tokens (   26.35 ms per token,    37.95 tokens per second)
                0.40.592.303 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |        eval time =     972.01 ms /    67 tokens (   14.73 ms per token,    67.90 tokens per second)
                0.40.592.303 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |       total time =    1340.91 ms /    81 tokens
                0.40.592.305 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |    graphs reused =         31
                0.40.592.307 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 | draft acceptance = 0.71429 (   45 accepted /    63 generated), mean len =  3.14
                0.40.592.367 I slot      release: id  0 | task 16 | stop processing: n_tokens = 448, truncated = 0
                

                llama.cpp 我用的最新 b10485; 完全抄作业:

                bruin@lmde7 ~ $ cat run-3.8-q5.sh
                #!/bin/bash
                
                # ref: https://lcz.me/topic/1157/qwen3.8-27b-q5_k_m-7900xtx-deepseek-harness%E5%AE%9E%E6%88%98%E5%B9%B3%E5%9D%87-52-t-s
                
                LLAMA_SERVER=/home/bruin/llama-server-vulkan-b10485
                MAIN_MODEL="/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf"
                MTMD_MODEL="/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/mmproj-F16.gguf"
                #--mmproj "${MTMD_MODEL}" \
                
                ${LLAMA_SERVER} \
                --device Vulkan0 \
                --model "${MAIN_MODEL}" \
                -t 10 \
                -b 512 \
                -ub 256 \
                --spec-draft-n-max 3 \
                --fit off \
                --no-context-shift \
                --metrics \
                --kv-unified \
                --jinja \
                --cache-type-k q8_0 \
                --cache-type-v q8_0 \
                -fa on \
                --spec-type draft-mtp \
                --ctx-size 131072 \
                --parallel 1 \
                -ngl -1 \
                --host 0.0.0.0 \
                --port 8000 \
                --chat-template-kwargs '{"enable_thinking": true, "preserve_think": false, "reasoning_effort": "medium"}' \
                --no-mmap \
                --temp 0.6 \
                --top-p 0.5 \
                --top-k 15 \
                --repeat-penalty 1.0 \
                --override-tensor blk\.\d+\.ffn_.*_exps\.=CPU \
                --alias qwen3.8-27b-q5
                

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                • L laobenxiong

                  感谢楼主. 7900xtx 能跑,不错. 明天试试dsh. 今天dsh+v4pro花了100多, 肉疼(不过确实强, 长链自主调试FPGA, 综合+ila probe+烧写+测试+uart输出分析一条龙, 我基本可以不用管, 花token就行).
                  802712c0-6935-4c19-b583-ca3851ade37f-image.jpeg

                  bruin@lmde7 ~ $ ./run-3.8-q5.sh
                  0.00.035.069 W Setting 'enable_thinking' via --chat-template-kwargs is deprecated. Use --reasoning on / --reasoning off instead.
                  0.00.035.097 W DEPRECATED: --mmap and --no-mmap are deprecated. use --load-mode mmap instead
                  0.00.039.005 I cmn  common_param: common_params_print_info: verbosity = 3 (adjust with the `-lv N` CLI arg)
                  0.00.039.491 W srv  llama_server: -----------------
                  0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: CORS is set to allow all origins ('*') and no API key is set
                  0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: this can be a security risk (cross-origin attacks)
                  0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: more info: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/25655
                  0.00.039.495 W srv  llama_server: -----------------
                  0.00.040.765 I srv    load_model: loading model '/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf'
                  0.08.836.391 I cmn          init: llama threadpool init, n_threads = 10
                  0.09.247.607 I common_speculative_init_result: creating MTP draft context against the target model '/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf'
                  0.09.318.357 I srv    load_model: initializing, n_slots = 1, n_ctx_slot = 131072, kv_unified = 'true'
                  0.09.457.688 I srv          init: chat template supports preserving reasoning, consider enabling it via --reasoning-preserve
                  0.09.457.746 I srv  llama_server: model loaded
                  0.09.457.750 I srv  llama_server: listening on http://0.0.0.0:8000
                  0.31.502.907 I slot get_availabl: id  0 | task -1 | selected slot by LRU, t_last = -1
                  0.31.503.144 I slot launch_slot_: id  0 | task 0 | processing task, is_child = 0
                  0.33.674.917 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 | prompt eval time =    1607.08 ms /   333 tokens (    4.83 ms per token,   207.21 tokens per second)
                  0.33.674.922 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |        eval time =     564.47 ms /    34 tokens (   17.11 ms per token,    58.46 tokens per second)
                  0.33.674.923 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |       total time =    2171.56 ms /   367 tokens
                  0.33.674.928 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 |    graphs reused =         11
                  0.33.674.930 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 0 | draft acceptance = 0.72727 (   24 accepted /    33 generated), mean len =  3.18
                  0.33.674.999 I slot      release: id  0 | task 0 | stop processing: n_tokens = 368, truncated = 0
                  0.39.250.971 I slot get_availabl: id  0 | task -1 | selected slot by LCP similarity, f_sim_best = 0.963 (> 0.100 thold), f_keep = 1.000
                  0.39.251.208 I slot launch_slot_: id  0 | task 16 | processing task, is_child = 0
                  0.40.592.295 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 | prompt eval time =     368.90 ms /    14 tokens (   26.35 ms per token,    37.95 tokens per second)
                  0.40.592.303 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |        eval time =     972.01 ms /    67 tokens (   14.73 ms per token,    67.90 tokens per second)
                  0.40.592.303 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |       total time =    1340.91 ms /    81 tokens
                  0.40.592.305 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 |    graphs reused =         31
                  0.40.592.307 I slot print_timing: id  0 | task 16 | draft acceptance = 0.71429 (   45 accepted /    63 generated), mean len =  3.14
                  0.40.592.367 I slot      release: id  0 | task 16 | stop processing: n_tokens = 448, truncated = 0
                  

                  llama.cpp 我用的最新 b10485; 完全抄作业:

                  bruin@lmde7 ~ $ cat run-3.8-q5.sh
                  #!/bin/bash
                  
                  # ref: https://lcz.me/topic/1157/qwen3.8-27b-q5_k_m-7900xtx-deepseek-harness%E5%AE%9E%E6%88%98%E5%B9%B3%E5%9D%87-52-t-s
                  
                  LLAMA_SERVER=/home/bruin/llama-server-vulkan-b10485
                  MAIN_MODEL="/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/Qwen3.8-27B-Q5_K_S.gguf"
                  MTMD_MODEL="/opt/gguf-models/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF/mmproj-F16.gguf"
                  #--mmproj "${MTMD_MODEL}" \
                  
                  ${LLAMA_SERVER} \
                  --device Vulkan0 \
                  --model "${MAIN_MODEL}" \
                  -t 10 \
                  -b 512 \
                  -ub 256 \
                  --spec-draft-n-max 3 \
                  --fit off \
                  --no-context-shift \
                  --metrics \
                  --kv-unified \
                  --jinja \
                  --cache-type-k q8_0 \
                  --cache-type-v q8_0 \
                  -fa on \
                  --spec-type draft-mtp \
                  --ctx-size 131072 \
                  --parallel 1 \
                  -ngl -1 \
                  --host 0.0.0.0 \
                  --port 8000 \
                  --chat-template-kwargs '{"enable_thinking": true, "preserve_think": false, "reasoning_effort": "medium"}' \
                  --no-mmap \
                  --temp 0.6 \
                  --top-p 0.5 \
                  --top-k 15 \
                  --repeat-penalty 1.0 \
                  --override-tensor blk\.\d+\.ffn_.*_exps\.=CPU \
                  --alias qwen3.8-27b-q5
                  

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                  @laobenxiong 确实,用了你这个q5ks的模型,我的速度终于正常了,也不用关thinking,不知道为什么其他人的q5km可以

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                    #35

                    关于--parallel 2 的测试

                    软硬件环境:
                    cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X
                    RAM:DDR5 64GB 6000
                    GPU:R9700 32G
                    OS: Ubuntu 24.04
                    软件 : llama.cpp + vulkan

                    结论:将并行设为1或者2,大部分情况下,性能变化属于正常波动,没有明显差别。

                    但是,即使有32G显存,有些任务还是会报以下错误:
                    26.48.401.777 E init_batch: failed to prepare attention ubatches
                    26.48.401.778 W decode: failed to find a memory slot for batch of size 16
                    26.48.401.779 W srv decode: failed to find free space in the KV cache, retrying with smaller batch size, off = 190, n_batch = 8, ret = 1
                    26.48.403.275 E init_batch: failed to prepare attention ubatches
                    26.48.403.277 W decode: failed to find a memory slot for batch of size 8
                    26.48.403.277 W srv decode: failed to find free space in the KV cache, retrying with smaller batch size, off = 190, n_batch = 4, ret = 1
                    虽然使用了 --cache-type-k/v q8_0 做 KV 量化来节省显存,但是 128K 的超长上下文,加上 --parallel 2,对 KV Cache 的要求依然极其恐怖。模型权重稳稳地占了 17GB。但当开启并发,且 Prompt 超长时,给 128K 上下文预留的 KV Cache 空间,在高峰期(特别是并发请求时)瞬间耗尽了,导致没有空位给下一个 Token 的生成。
                    好消息是,llama.cpp不能为KV Cache分配空间,并不会导致崩溃或任务中断(我没有碰到过),只会导致llama.cpp降级重试,严重的情况下会感觉明显卡顿而已,不用过于担心。
                    所以,用7900XTX的朋友,把并发设为1可能是更好的选择。

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                      感谢分享,学习中。。。

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